RP Suggestions and possible Combat

That sounds like good ideas in the suggestions it be nice if we held tournaments and also opening it for some raids.

Not sure what else to suggest at the moment myself.

Hey, I'm probably one of the people you have seen in a house and not all that active. Personally I rather like the fact that there are no raids, not because I do not like raids, but because they tend to bring a lot of ass hats who are only about the pew pew.



I think the same can often be said for recruiting, though that is of course a way to get people to the sim, it tends to be indiscriminate and again, brings a lot of ass hats, I prefer the idea of people who enjoy the RP coming here for the RP rather than being recruited for a scarlet raid group.



Other than that I'm all for the idea of more people in RP and assistant heads of caste. then again, if they arn't around just NPC right? that works for a lot of situations too.



oh right, and I'm all for the idea of pirates, because as you say lydius is not exactly a clean place. but I'm.. cautious about taking in a group for that as it again, poses the very real chance for ass hats. I'd say just bring pirates and brigands into the city as is instead!



I think that's it for me, Thanks for your time!

We may have some trouble getting other sims to allow us to go RP there if we do not have combat. I am also noticing there are not many active men coming around to RP as much as FW and slaves. I know there are plenty of other RP sims that do not have combat, so I guess we should decide if we would rather stick with the RP only and try to build something new up, or use a meter.

Some restrictions we could put on it are RP Only Zones, RP Only Days, limited raids per week, etc. I know though that I would personally rather have an empty sim than have it only be active from people standing around waiting for someone to lead a raid.

I would love to have the sim stay active as RP only, but I am willing to go either way if it will help keep people here, because I think we have lots of great people already.

So Alaric basically shares my views. 

Meter Combat comes with anger and rage. "So and so cheated" or "So and sos weapon isn't on the list" or messes over raid ratio, or the fact we arent specificly BTB or GE so we have players from both. Many BTB Players don't want to do combat with GE sims, at the same time. Some GEers (From other sims) might not want to conform to a more BTB Style. 

As for the IC trade, Ambassador is BTB a Scarlet or Blue Caste position I wouldn't mind volunteering as such. It would be great to send folks out to secure trade with other sims.



As for bringing in other groups that could bring in drama as well. As we are currently unmetered if a Pirate or Outlaw took captives and a raid came in I could see they trying to hide behind the No Meter thing. People wont look at the group, they will look at the sim which in the end gives the sim a bad name. 

Metered Combat again is not necessary for a successful Gor sim. It has been done before, it just takes time we have a great base of Role Players here I've RPed with many of them ether in the past in other sims or here in Lydius.

As for the Active Heads of Caste and the list of the Heads of Caste and Asstaints to Heads of Caste I think these are needed ICly i never met the previous Scarlet Caste head, but he has since been replaced.

Lydius is a PRIME choice for an Unmetered sim, as due to the fact it is;

A) A Port City
&
B) A Notable Mixing Bowl of Cultures from the Books

Listen, we are a new sim, we are different from the norm currently as far as Gor sims go. We are less than 3 months old and arent sitting at 500 traffic ... we are over 6000 traffic.... I feel we are on the right track. There are METERED sims under 2k traffic that just sit and rot. We are on par with some metered sims as far as traffic. So I say give it time before any major changes such as rule changes or adding a meter.


That is just my 2 cents. *shrugs*

I do agree with Alaric and with Dermie there.

Though I think, it will be a good idea to bring in some RP only days and combat days. In that way, there is for everyone something.

For the pirate/smuggling group, I can see if I can reach some of the groups I have been in the past, as smuggler/Pirate, but I do not promise anything here, since the group have fallen apart.

<3 Mahi

I've not been very active the past few days, just trying to sort RL at the moment, so apologies for that.

But yeah, I agree with Alaric and Dermot ... All my years in SL Gor have just taught me that the standard way of meter combat (TP to docks, surprise raid, drag captives to docks and TP out) just causes headaches and slowly but certainly leads to RP bans and annoyance in the end. (Especially so in BtB Gor, where in GE Gor meter combat usually comes at the replacement of RP entirely).

If we wish to engage in forms of meter combat I would suggest we try to do it with a heavy focus on storylines and use special setups and engagements for it. Such as Kaelus with the skybox battlefields.

I personally am really bored with the standard raidmodel (dock TP, grapple walls, lockpicks doors, TP out with captives). There were lots more kinds of conflict and battles in the books that didn't involve docks or walls. Simple raids on towers, tarnbattles, sea-battles, sieges. And they all had lots of story going on while they happened too.

I think currently Lydius is in a good position and offers something unique by being RP only. If anything we might want to consider having an official Combat RP dice rule-set, a very simplistic one.

If people do decide they want to have meter combat, then I won't object either though.

I like the idea of Combat RP dice Rule set as Anarch mentions ...

Also i think if we do allow any kind of combat we should do it like Anarch said .... story oritented no random raids....and the idea of sea battles, sieges and such totally sounds wicked! Tarn battles would be fun as well but that would take time to teach folks how to use tarns and we would want to regulate what tarns are used but for the most part Tarn House tarns is the standards

The negative experience from the skybox battles in Kaelus was, that there were complaints from some participating, that they could not RP to take a captive.

On the other hand that did lead to more RP as they went into the City to actually RP to capture/steal someone.

I personally think that a specific day/days of allowed combat can work as well, the main focus should remain on RP and not on combat.

Just my two cents.

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I think some good points and ideas here. Seems like the general consensus is that people arent really fond of introducing metered combat but would be okay with it with restrictions for the sake of having more people to RP with. I added a couple suggestions to the idea list.

• Mod approval needed for raid (if like 2 people on sim and no mods then no raid)
• RP Only zones and RP only days
• No surprise attack in middle of posting RP, so if you are para RPing with someone then they should have a chance to defend themselves. So an attack could emote drawing their weapon ready to attack, and then wait for the other person to emote being ready, or something like that.
• No raid groups, so people could only use their group or hire mercs, or make IC alliances.

The skybox thing is interesting but not sure how that would work. Everyone in the city would TP up there that wanted to fight? I have also seen some sims require like a few hours or a day notice before a raid, which would allow more people to participate.

And just so you know, I am fine with keeping it RP Only and not having a lot of traffic. It's possible it could take some time to really build up, but could be worth it in the long run if we start bringing in more RP and traffic.

Another concern is that if we did have metered combat, it would be tough to not just be btb. Maybe we could have a raid ratio or limit the number of outlaws that can raid us? I like the idea of letting women chose to RP wielding a weapon with the expectation they face consequences, but we may get sick of dealing with it if there are like 30 of them showing up everyday.

The outlaw women from GE groups usually do not accept 'consequences', they are horrendous to roleplay with as they often have tons of RP limits that make the entire ordeal lose it's 'gorean theme' for me. If we want to do something like this we probably need to take a very careful approach and be very selective of which GE groups we would allow to raid us. Personally I think I myself will stay out of the meter combat side of things though...

I totally agree. Maybe we could do something like btb combat, but still allow women to RP using a weapon?

I dont think women using weapons at all would be a good idea. At least outside of self defense.

How about we continue to try out RP Only for a couple more weeks and if it picks up, great, otherwise if it gets too slow and boring then we'll start using a meter with some of these RP restrictions.